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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:30 pm 
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I used to have an awesome reef tank ...but needed the money and decided to tear it down :( I made 3K from the sale though:) anyways i need to do something with the tank since it is built into my wall and depresses me to see it empty... So I've been looking for a nice piece of driftwood and today i found one that goes from one side of my 90 right to the other side and spans the whole depth too!! I'm getting excited about setting the tank up ... I would like to find some sort of aquatic grass to grow along the bottom and i would like to know what i would need to do that ... do i need some sort of substrate other than gravel? I know there is that eco substrate... reccomendations on what to use would be nice. i would like to run a 2x96watt retro over the tank.. i think that would be nice .. and run 6500k bulbs.

thoughts?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:34 pm 
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Sagitarria would grow in nicely and look like broad blades of grass once it fills in. Java fern would attach to the driftwood and look like shrubbery.

2x96W Pcs might be a little dim for some of the more light demanding plants.

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all i want is grass.

Dwarf Hairgrass
(Eleocharis acicularis)

thats all i want

just to cover the floor of the tank

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 Post subject: Eleocharis acicularis
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:27 pm 
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This plant likes a sandy substrate, not to high temp < 77 f, and intense light. How deep is your 90? The general rule of thumb that I use is 3 1/2 watts per gallon for 15 in.'s deep. Deeper tank - more watts


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:32 pm 
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its 26" deep its an AGA 90gallon

you dont think that 192 watts would cover just doing the grass?


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 Post subject: Eleocharis acicularis
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:07 pm 
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I have some of this in a small tank (15") with 30 watts over it in normal gravel. It has shown no indications of growth but it also hasn't died. Tropica's aquarium plants says it requires medium to very high light. Yes, I think your lighting is inadequate to promote growth with this plant in a 26" deep tank. That is just my opinion of course and you can try. There are more than 100 species of eleocharis and you might have one that will get away with low light (i.e. eleocharis "parvula").


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:15 pm 
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thanks! i'll look for that stuff...

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Don't forget to fertilize the the substrate every few months. you can use pond tabs and flourish iron tabs.

also adding liquid iron to the tank 2 times a week helps a lot.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:14 pm 
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there is plenty of iron in barnsteads water... i think

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 Post subject: plants
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you may want to try jungle val or a type of val they may do better with the depth and the amount of light you have and you can use plain gravel and just add root tabs every once and a while along with potasium and iron liquids sagataria subulata is a nice grass but it depends on if you want a tall grass or a short grass bed sag may not do so well I have never grown it in low light.

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i want short grass .. like 4" or less in height.... i would like to do sand i want this to look really natural like in the lake or something...

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 Post subject: plants
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I dont think you are going to be able to achieve what you are trying to do with the lights you have you may get away with it if you run co2 but because of the depth it may not work most short grass plants need lots of light and co2 to do well but I would try sagataria plants to try to get the effect you are looking for it may work only way to find out is to try. worst that can happen is plants die or just dont grow or whole tank turns into algae. with 400w over a 125gal I have trouble with high light low growing plants unless co2 is running and fetilized often and I have neutrient enriched gravel.

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maybe i'll have to skip the plants...

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I have some dwarf sag that grows quite nicely in a 10g with a standard 15w flo light above it.

I might be bringing some of it to next month's auction.


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