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What kind of group buy would you be interested in ?
Dry Goods - food etc 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Dry Goods - sponge filters 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Plants 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Fish - killies 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Fish - wild or uncommon cichlids 44%  44%  [ 7 ]
Fish - livebearers 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Fish - Rainbowfish 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Fish - Other 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Other - please note below 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:56 pm 
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sabbath wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, the club picks up the shipping on group buys.


on "official" group buys, yes.
On unofficial buys (ie just a few folks getting together) - no.

shipping from Kens is usually pretty cheap, so its kinda 50/50 -- on the one hand its an easy group buy - on the other hand, I'd rather have the club sponser group buys with bigger shipping costs (ie live fish from across the country) rather than the $5 or $10 it would cost for a Ken's group buy...

Since it is a fairly small amount of money, if say 6 people express interest in a Ken's group buy, I'll propose to the BOD that we pay for the shipping (and this won't preclude a fish group buy at some point )

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Sorry, I didn't realize he was talking about a private group buy.


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no worries :mrgreen:

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Species I am currently keeping/breeding include :
Copadichromis borleyi "redfin"
Labidochromis caeruleus yellow labs
Aulonocara sp. "Lwanda"
Ancistrus cf. cirrhosus "Super Red Ancistris"
Xiphophorus montezumae Montezuma Swordtails
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(I'm in the middle of resetting and redesigning my fishroom - so things are kinda quiet)


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I don't really mind with ken's. I can do ken's either way, private or an official group buy.

Now if you are saying we can do a group buy from some wholesalers, then count me in. (Just please please don't do one from seagrest farms... I am not happy with their service. I don't want to bash them here because it might get the club in trouble)


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 Post subject: I'd be interested . . .
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:24 am 
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If we're ordering from Ken's, I'm interested in a variety of stuff.

Oh, and by the way, I just got an order from http://cichlidbreeding.com/ With the popularity of shellies and the like recently a mass buy of shells, etc. from them may be an idea. Finding decent shells for shellies can be frustrating and expensive. I just got 50 beautiful shells for $.20 each. and a discount on top of that because I bought more than 20. They've got breeding caves of all kinds too. Worth a look?

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front-fan wrote:
If we're ordering from Ken's, I'm interested in a variety of stuff.

Oh, and by the way, I just got an order from http://cichlidbreeding.com/ With the popularity of shellies and the like recently a mass buy of shells, etc. from them may be an idea. Finding decent shells for shellies can be frustrating and expensive. I just got 50 beautiful shells for $.20 each. and a discount on top of that because I bought more than 20. They've got breeding caves of all kinds too. Worth a look?

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certainly
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Which shells did you buy ?
Any chance you can bring one to the meeting for folks to see ?

I had initially gone with the caves from Ken because they were cheaper (and he's local and I like supporting local folks ) but they do have alot more options - and if we buy the "Buy 5 get one Free" caves, the price is comparable to the ones from Kens...

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Species I am currently keeping/breeding include :
Copadichromis borleyi "redfin"
Labidochromis caeruleus yellow labs
Aulonocara sp. "Lwanda"
Ancistrus cf. cirrhosus "Super Red Ancistris"
Xiphophorus montezumae Montezuma Swordtails
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(I'm in the middle of resetting and redesigning my fishroom - so things are kinda quiet)


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:31 pm 
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Sorry, I'm already at work and won't be going home before the meeting.
The shells I got are:
Breeding Shells Babylonia Spirata. They are the third item under "Breeding Shells"
Nice looking shells, the same overall size as the genuine Tang. shells.

I also got 2 bags of the "Gravel Shells - Black Litorina" on the next page. They are a similar color and will add some interest to the plain sand I use for substrate.

Is there a way we can post the photo?

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Species I am currently keeping/breeding include :
Copadichromis borleyi "redfin"
Labidochromis caeruleus yellow labs
Aulonocara sp. "Lwanda"
Ancistrus cf. cirrhosus "Super Red Ancistris"
Xiphophorus montezumae Montezuma Swordtails
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(I'm in the middle of resetting and redesigning my fishroom - so things are kinda quiet)


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I got some pretty big nad some medium sized shells. Maybe I'll bring them to the january auction.

Some have been washed out already some have not.

Has anyone tried adding crushed shells to raise hte hardness of the water? Right now I am dumping loads of equilibrium into my goodeid tanks just to get the kh up a little bit.

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diburning wrote:
I got some pretty big nad some medium sized shells. Maybe I'll bring them to the january auction.

Some have been washed out already some have not.

Has anyone tried adding crushed shells to raise hte hardness of the water? Right now I am dumping loads of equilibrium into my goodeid tanks just to get the kh up a little bit.


Loads of equilibrium? Boy, that'll get expensive fast. I know a lot of people who fill a media bag with crushed coral and put it in their canister filters to raise their hardness. As it gets used up, just refill the bag.

Alternately, you could buy dry chemicals and make your own equilibrium for very, very cheap.

To raise both GH and KH simultaneously, add calcium carbonate (CaCO3). 1/2 teaspoon per 100 liters of water will increase both the KH and GH by about 1-2 dH. Alternatively, add some sea shells, coral, limestone, marble chips, etc. to your filter.

To raise the KH without raising the GH, add sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3), commonly known as baking soda. 1/2 teaspoon per 100 Liters raises the KH by about 1 dH. Sodium bicarbonate drives the pH towards an equilibrium value of 8.2.


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I don't really keep track of measurements and numbers and such; but, when I need to harden up the water, I use a box filter full of crushed coral. keeps things nice and steady, as the water is always flowing over the CC. i make more frequent, and less volume water changes so the PH doesn't dip too fast. I used this alot when breeding ancistrus.


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I agree w/above posts......
Easy and cheap way is to use crushed coral in a mesh bag and put
in canister,power,or box filter.
I also use some in the substrate of my Tangaynikan tanks.The brand has
small(about#3mm)pieces and no sharp edges.

The other product I love, is aragaMILK(thanks Rich P).This is a liquid
buffer that contains calcium,magnesium and other minerals to harden the water.Where my tap water is so soft,I use it in all my tanks to some extent.
It is not cheap but according to the directions,only very little has to be used-Something like 2 drops per 5 gallons for Tang. tanks,1 drop per 5 gallons for livebearer tanks etc.
Presently,I have about 8 tanks set up and this bottle will last a long time.

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so are we going to do a group buy anytime soon?

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It seems like the general consensis is the cichlids. Oh, by the way, does anyone have any info on breeding Biotodomas? I have a pair of an undescribed species.

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